Curse

Tachyon · Jul 18, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

I'm English born and bred, have spent my hard earned money to buy all three chapters and extra character slots and how does ANet repay this?

By insulting me and calling me 'Common', that's how. If they added a 'Red Neck' district to the US servers then fair enough, but I don't think they'll do that!

/Signed

Surena · Jul 18, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by william1975

So french german and italian speakers can have their own privite little districts to talk in but english speakers cant?

Many Aussies and NZs move(d) to the US Servers, so why can't you? Plenty of English speakers there.

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English is not the common language, to say that it is is racist, and to deny those who speak it primarily or solely is rascist.

So Anet, an American company with mostly english-speaking developers is denying itself?

I hate histonerds with complexes.

william1975 · Jul 18, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

oh how clever of you, why dont i move from my home territory to get an even worse connection problem.

Now lets see your solution to any problem of maltreatment is to make those being treat run away. So the solution in nazi Germany shoudl have been for the minorities under persecution to run away from their tormentors? Many did and what happend they were followed and persecuted and murdered.

Racism doesnt go away by fleeing it

Isileth · Jul 18, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

I think some people are taking this to far to be accusing Anet of racism. I think they just felt the English districts got used the most, even by foreign players that they might as well make them a common district.

As I said earlier I disagree with this as its extremely hard to find English teams now and such and in terms of those of us who dont speak any of the other languages its basically spam.

WinterSnowblind · Jul 18, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03

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Originally Posted by Hyper.nl

/notsigned

I see no need to split up the current Euro English districts into separate Euro English and Euro Common districts. The more you split up in home districts, the harder it will get to find a party in quiet area's.

/Signed.

Ever tried to complete a mission with people who speak a different language from you? Trying to co-ordinate a team of PUGS is hard enough, but when none of you can understand each other, it's completely impossible.

For the record, I do like this update, but the renaming of the English districts is just something I don't understand. It may not be such a problem for those in the US or even Australia, but here in Europe there are a lot of people who speak many different languages, and having them all now flooding into what used to be the English districts is rather annoying.

Again, this has nothing to do with racism, I don't mind foreign speaking people, but this change seems unnecessary, and is making things very difficult for us English speaking Europeans.

MithranArkanere · Jul 18, 2007, 04:31 PM // 16:31

IT's easy, the coommon districts language is English.
People there should tak english if the can, so everyone understands each other.

Isileth · Jul 18, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

But not everyone speaks English. Its not like America, there are a lot more languages in Europe. Now there are just far to many non English speakers in what used to be English districts, it makes holding conversations, forming parties, trading etc very very difficult.

azrael-angel · Jul 18, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23

/signed

i hate this "common" thing for a few reasons.

a/ its derivative, calling the old english dis "common"

b/ why do the french/german etc still get there own dis?

c/ why english dis, not EU dis? makes more sense to me

d/ where are pure english people suposed to go?

e/ its not fair

f/ *has a tantrum*

g/ and lastly, i dont like what anets implying with it, there making it so english HAVE to socialize with foreigners, which although could be good, i realy dont want to, i came to english districts because im english, and want to be with english speakers, not a massive group of Germans/French etc shouting around, if i want that, i go to THERE DISTRICT!!!!, which brings me back to, why do the english not get there own districts any more?!?!?!

TurinPT · Jul 18, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04

ahahah good job anet, way to get back at all those xenophobic brits
seriously guys, if someone is not speaking your language, he's most likely not speaking to you.
Just ignore it.

In case anyone complaining in this thread is one of those who sent me angry whispers, while I tried to recruit for a portuguese only guild, with messages like: "omg english only!!!!111 go away noob!!"
You don't even deserve to be called common... you're just scum.

Not to mention an extra district would only split the community further apart.
Just try and get along with us, foreign players are human too you know...

WinterSnowblind · Jul 18, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by TurinPT

ahahah good job anet, way to get back at all those xenophobic brits
seriously guys, if someone is not speaking your language, he's most likely not speaking to you.
Just ignore it.

In case anyone complaining in this thread is one of those who sent me angry whispers, while I tried to recruit for a portuguese only guild, with messages like: "omg english only!!!!111 go away noob!!"
You don't even deserve to be called common... you're just scum.

Not to mention an extra district would only split the community further apart.
Just try and get along with us, foreign players are human too you know...

Read the comments everyone made. Nobody cares where they're from or what language they speak. The problem is the English district is for communicating with English people. It's very difficult to trade items or form a party with people you can't understand.

We already have the International district for people from everywhere to meet up on, but now it's extremely hard for English speaking Europeans to form parties and sell things because of this, and this isn't just because the English think they're better than everyone else, I'm sure if the French district was renamed "common" they would be complaining about the exact same thing.

If I'm trying to form a party to complete a mission, I need them to understand what I'm saying, so we can co-ordinate properly. If they go off and do something else and get us all killed, it's rather frustrating. This is a problem, not simply xenophobia.

Henchman · Jul 18, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

I honestly have no idea why Anet made this change.
Anet did something good by removing the trade spam, only to make room for spamming which most people who are in an English district cant even understand..
I am a very big fan of Anet, but I have to say that this was a very pathetic update.
If they want a dist where any language can be spoken, then make a "Common" dist.. But English should have its own dist just like all the other highly spoken languages in Europe

warren_kn · Jul 18, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by TurinPT

ahahah good job anet, way to get back at all those xenophobic brits
seriously guys, if someone is not speaking your language, he's most likely not speaking to you.
Just ignore it.

In case anyone complaining in this thread is one of those who sent me angry whispers, while I tried to recruit for a portuguese only guild, with messages like: "omg english only!!!!111 go away noob!!"
You don't even deserve to be called common... you're just scum.

Not to mention an extra district would only split the community further apart.
Just try and get along with us, foreign players are human too you know...

In which case why don't we just have a load of common districts you ignorant child. It is a problem whether you like it or not. It is unfair treatment of English speaking Euro server users, whether they are English or not. Unfortunately for you there isn't a Portuguese district, if however there was do you not think you'd have better luck recruiting there instead of a Common district. The different districts exist for easier use for people who speak different languages.

Boo · Jul 18, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26

/agree

It struck me when I saw it yesterday night, but I think that Anet have done this because they know that many people (from different european countries) went to the old English district to trade, find party for quests and missions... (at least is what I and many people I know do). If you realised, there were always 3-4 English districts, whereas 1 Spanish, Italian, French in most of the quiet cities.
But now where is English people going?

Sorry for my English, I'm Spanish

Riou McDohl · Jul 18, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by TurinPT

ahahah good job anet, way to get back at all those xenophobic brits
seriously guys, if someone is not speaking your language, he's most likely not speaking to you.
Just ignore it.

In case anyone complaining in this thread is one of those who sent me angry whispers, while I tried to recruit for a portuguese only guild, with messages like: "omg english only!!!!111 go away noob!!"
You don't even deserve to be called common... you're just scum.

Not to mention an extra district would only split the community further apart.
Just try and get along with us, foreign players are human too you know...

Yes, and when they're whispering to you in their own language most likely wanting to sell something then they're still not talking to you, right?

I'm all for the odd portuguese player or two advertising in a former English district because they don't have their own one, however I logged on today to see several other languages, french, german, etc all advertising their stuff on the same channel. It's like being in an international district except without the different font.

There's other districts for those languages, so why can't English speaking people have our own? Certain people are complaining that English people are complaining about this, but those people have their own districts as well. If we want to party with other languaged people, then we could go to Common, but what if we don't speak other languages. Guess I'll just start all this Henchman/Hero stuff people have been talking about now.

Bring back English?
/signed

Curse You · Jul 18, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by Hyper.nl

I see no need to split up the current Euro English districts into separate Euro English and Euro Common districts. The more you split up in home districts, the harder it will get to find a party in quiet area's.

I asked people in "European District Common 1" of Lion's Arch about this before I posted this thread. This came up.

The general consensus, however, was that it is pointless to have everyone in the same district, if you can only understand a few of the people. Just imagine if all of Europe could only use 1 district.

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Originally Posted by TurinPT

ahahah good job anet, way to get back at all those xenophobic brits
seriously guys, if someone is not speaking your language, he's most likely not speaking to you.
Just ignore it.

In case anyone complaining in this thread is one of those who sent me angry whispers, while I tried to recruit for a portuguese only guild, with messages like: "omg english only!!!!111 go away noob!!"
You don't even deserve to be called common... you're just scum.

Not to mention an extra district would only split the community further apart.
Just try and get along with us, foreign players are human too you know...

Xenophobic, or just people wanting to be able to understand what someone is saying to them?

Do you really think it's easy to trade or chat when there are 2 other conversations going on in other languages? I tried doing it last night, and let me tell you, it's very irritating. You can't filter out people speaking a language you can't understand if they're using the same chat as you. As well, their chatter will make it so you have to look for other people speaking the same language as you. It's really hard to ignore someone when they're basically yelling in your ear.

Alex Morningstar · Jul 19, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by Hyper.nl

/notsigned

I see no need to split up the current Euro English districts into separate Euro English and Euro Common districts. The more you split up in home districts, the harder it will get to find a party in quiet area's.

English speaking Europeans should be merged into American districts or vice versa because linguistic and gameplay wise; it makes sense. Sure, it screws with the regions but the HA/favor system isn't as important as being able to communicate with other players. Theoretically, it is a MMO or at the least a game where you play with other people. That's tricky if you don't speak the same language.

Curse You · Jul 19, 2007, 01:12 AM // 01:12

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Originally Posted by Alex Morningstar

English speaking Europeans should be merged into American districts or vice versa because linguistic and gameplay wise; it makes sense. Sure, it screws with the regions but the HA/favor system isn't as important as being able to communicate with other players. Theoretically, it is a MMO or at the least a game where you play with other people. That's tricky if you don't speak the same language.

Frankly, I wouldn't want that either. I left American Districts for many good reasons, and I don't want to be forced to go back. The community of English speaking Europeans is very different from the American community.

genofreek · Jul 19, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43

/signed

If they had melted Europe's servers into one huge Common area... well, it wouldn't be good, but to have every other language/nationality get a district while England is left out is just rude. I can't imagine why ANet would do this.

I'm glad my English friends play on the American server.

They won't have to deal with it.

Alex Morningstar · Jul 19, 2007, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Frankly, I wouldn't want that either. I left American Districts for many good reasons, and I don't want to be forced to go back. The community of English speaking Europeans is very different from the American community.

It would be better for the community as a whole as it would increase the amount of people overall in the district and would reinforce the idea that it's a game you play with other people, and not just henchmen and heros because the district is always empty.

Plus as GW grows and adds new regions like Russia and China that will have servers of their own (meaning those players can use those instead of being lumped on a server not in their area such as European or American), it makes more sense for areas to consolidate as the population changes to reflect the additional or decrease if the population overall drops.

The most logical way to do this, I would think, would be by language. Since that is the case, European English and American would be put together, kind of like how Australia and Canada are both typically found on American servers, at least in my experience. Though they could easily be found on European. Either way, both are English speaking and if it's mutually exclusive to merge them it makes sense to.

As for the reasons you left, I'm willing to bet that's a seperate issue than whether or not the individuals in the said district can speak English or not. If the reason you left the American district was because Americans are a bunch of asshats, that's definately a seperate issue and should be dealt with differently.

Bazompora · Jul 19, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

I don't know about the viability of pure English districts, and don't oppose to the principle, but by all means preserve common European districts!